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       Wendi's Muscle Definition Goal
    P:  7/26/2010 10:34:42 AM
    Skinny

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    A former student of mine wrote me an email asking advice.  I'm going to answer her here to encourage some of the rest of you to chime in with encouragement and ideas.

     


    I would like to get into body building myself. You have inspired me. I have several questions for you though. I exercise everyday except of course Sunday. I workout for about 2 hours a day. I get sooo frustrated though because I do workout extremely hard and I don't see the results I really want meaning defined muscles. I wandered if you could tell me what it is that makes the definition in the muscles? Is it all in the supplements?

    If so what should I be taking?

    I have done Body for Life once. I take the protein shakes and bars especially after a workout. I haven't been keeping a food diary but, I don't eat junk.

    I just get so discouraged when I workout so hard and don't see that in my body.

    Is there any advice you can give me?  Or books I can read? I hope that you will be able to reply. Thank you-- Wendi 


     

    Congratulations on your dedication to fitness!  And you trust an old man like me to give you advice?  Well, I'll share some things I've learned.  Hopefully you'll get some ideas.
     

    Not knowing what your current fitness level is (body fat %, body weight, strength, etc.) I'll just make a few general observations.  Two hours a day is excessive.  It's not getting you any closer to your goal of muscle definition than one hour a day would.  Remember, our goal of good fitness and health should still keep its proper place in life's overall priorities.  Spend that second hour doing some of the other to-do things on your list.  The only time I've spent more was the month previous to my competitions, and then it was just a half-hour of extra cardio in the evening to get the body fat low enough for a show.


    Getting some good muscle definition is dependent on 2 things--thin enough skin so the muscles aren't all padded with fat and then enough muscle size so that there is something to show once the skin is thin.



    What are you currently doing when you "exercise?"  The Body-for-life plan of 3 days of weights alternating with 3 days of cardio is really a pretty good concept.  I'm doing 4 and 2 right now.  There have even been times with I've just done weights every day.  On your weight days, what guidelines do you follow in choosing the exercises, weight levels, set and rep numbers?  Some women I see in the gym are doing too many reps with not enough weight.  Muscle definition will only come if you're lifting heavy enough to reach fatigue at 8 to 12 reps.  Otherwise you are just hitting the fast-twitch muscle fibers which will give you smooth, sleek muscles like a runner or other endurance athlete.



    Some women think good nutrition is under 1000 calories and all salad.  Here again, the Body-for-life book outlines some pretty good concepts for eating.  I'm a 6-meal-a-day guy, with about half of each meal's calories coming from protein.  Shoot for 1 to 1.5 grams of protein a day for each pound of body weight.  If you still need to lose body fat, don't get too extreme.  It will come off as you build your muscle mass and with the 3 sessions of cardio each week.  Don't go less than 9 calories per pound of body weight per day.



    You ask about supplements.  Protein powder is a basic.  I'll make a shake for one of my meals just for the convenience of it.  Use the bars only in emergencies--the protein quality is not as good as real food.  Be sure you are getting a good multi-vitamin.  After that, the supplementation is just to put the finishing touches on an otherwise solid base of proper nutrition and exercise.  A good creatine product might be your next logical choice.  I take 3-XL by iSatori.  It helps in muscle recovery and encourages muscle growth.  By the way, don't be afraid of that word "growth."  You know that you will NEVER be all muscle-bound and bulky like those hulks on the muscle magazine covers, don't you?  It takes a lot more than either of us is going to do to get like that.  And a woman's normal hormones will keep you looking feminine no matter how much you lift weights.



    Another basic supplement would be some good BCAAs (branch-chained amino acids).  I take Amino Phase, again by iSatori.



    People might tell you to take some kind of fat burner.  I don't think you'd want that now, nor do you need a pre-workout supp, although I use one called Morph.  I also take a testosterone booster, but then, you aren't an old man :)



    Keep asking questions until you are clear about things.  You could even post a log of your eating for a couple of days or of your workouts.



    Good to hear from you again. 


    Old Man Skinny

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    P: 7/30/2010 6:58:19 PM
    Skinny

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    Here's the next exchange:

    Thank you for replying. I do have to clarify that I did do Body for life one time a couple of years ago. I kind of go off that with regards to what I eat. Protein and carb, 6 small meals a day. But as for the working out. I have for the past year and a half been doing group classes.(Up until I read about you and decided to change my workout routine.)
    The classes I was taking were Les Mills Body Pump. (a weight lifting class put to music)
    I would take that class M,W,Sat  Body sculpt class on F. Plus Yoga on M,W,F. I would take a Zumba class (latin dance cardio class)on T,&Th.  Then Les Mills Body Combat (High intensity kick boxing class) after my Zumba class on T,&Th. I do love these two cardio classes!  But.... I have laid off on that schedule and have been doing your schedule that you have in the article on Body builders.com.
     
    I have been doing that schedule for the past week. I have felt a difference! I make sure that I fatigue the muscle that I am working, then move on to the next muscle group.  So Monday is my Push day with about 30 min running.(3 miles) Tues. Cardio with Zumba class and Core. Wed.Legs 30 min run (3 miles) Thur. cardio   Fri. Pull day w/ 30 min run (3 miles). Sat. "HIIT" day. What does HIIT mean?  Mon. & Wed. I do a great  yoga class still.  So that is what I have been doing the past week and half.
     
    I agree, that 2 hours is too much! But I wasn't seeing any results! So I was killing my body to try and get results! Although T,Th I probably will still do 2 hr. because I love those Cardio classes! (Zumba and Body Combat) 
     
    What you said about the protein bar made sense too. Eat real food for that Protein. Egg w/o yolk. Cottage cheese.
     
    I hope that I can bring my BF% down though! I tested my BF% a couple of days ago. Granted I was after I had worked out, but I don't think it would be that much different. It was pretty high! It was 24%! I am 5.1 and 125 lbs. very active. It was frustrating to see it so high. How can I get this lower?
     
    Well that is the run down of my workout. Thank you for your help. If you have more advice let me know.  Wendi

     

    Dear Wendi,

     

    HITT=High intensity interval training.  You can do a search on that.  Basically it means alternating sprints with slower, resting periods.  Like I run all out for a minute, then jog east for 30 seconds, repeating the cycle through my 30 minutes of cardio.  The idea is that it keeps the heart rate up without canabalizing the muscle tissue.
     
    I'm glad that you've cut back on the amount of time.  If the bodyfat still doesn't come off with the increase in muscle mass (your old schedule was working against you--eating away at the muscle you were trying to build), then we'd look at nutrition.  Give it 3 weeks and see where you are then.

    Old Man Skinny

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    P: 7/31/2010 4:15:57 PM
    eddie3dd13

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    Yes you are spot on with your advice again Skinny


     


    You are right about 2 hrs being too long, it effects the intensity if the workout too.


    Here is a simple example if intensity being affected by length of time.


    I have worked on the elliptical trainer after warm up doing HIIT, I can switch from low for 1min to high for 1 min, low is 5 high is level 15 next time its 16 then 17 etc.  Normally the HIIT section lasts 20 min with 5min warm up and cool down making 30 min total.


     


    One day I tried a mini version of the HIIT Switching from low for 30sec to high for 30 sec, I was surprised to find that I could go to a higher level than normal, I pushed that bit harder knowing it would only last 30 sec, instead of the usual 60 sec.

    same with a 2 hr workout , if you set your mind on 1 hr you have the ability to try the bit harder now.


    Eddie Since 1955
    Now a member of the 100 kg Bench Press Club 26 Feb 2006
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